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if we are successful, mitch mcconnell is fine. if not, we are all in trouble. >> conservatives cheer the president's decision to stop subsidies. some see a price if congress doesn't step in and pass obamacare fixes. >> what the president is doing is affecting the ability of vulnerable people to receive health care right now. >> and the secretary of state said all is fine. they are on the same page when it comes to north korea. >> those diplomatic efforts continue until the first bomb drops. >> secretary tillerson among those meeting with the president right now. with the cabinet meeting, we expect tape momentarily. he is giving lengthy remarks about world problems to spending
levels at home to the health care debate to the relationship with steve bannon. we will bring you that tape in a moment. next for the president is busy and intense. the president will have lunch with mitch mcconnell and mike pence. the top of their agenda which is how to salvage. both desperately need a win and have to work together to get it despite their rocky happy. this is mcconnell in early august. clearly frustrated. >> our new president had not been in this line of work before. and i think had excessive expectations about how quickly things happen in the democratic process. >> after that an angry phone call evolved into a screaming match and cold silence between the president and the top senate republican. except on twitter where he took aim at mcconnell. mitch, get back to work.
tax reform and cuts and infrastructure bill on my desk for signing. you can do it. needless to say, you can expect more than elephant in the room today. from bloomberg and cnn's sarah murray. we will be interrupted momentarily with his cabinet and he moves on to the next meeting with mitch mcconnell. these guys are so different. they don't get along and operate and their outlook is different. they desperately need each other. the senate has to pass a budget this week. they are short votes. rand paul was uncommitted and undecided. john mccain is undecided on the budget. i'm told they are going to send hr mcmaster and mattis to meet with mccain to get his vote. how important is this meeting and how important is it that they figure out a way to work together despite the fact that
they don't like each other. >> thad cochran is not coming back to washington this week. that could mean one less vote. the margin of error is even smaller. that's a challenge. if mccain goes, they would be down to 50. you have to bring in pence to break the tie. there is no margin of error for the republicans. if they don't get this budget done, that imperils tax reform. that they can't do a tax reform or cut, that will be a disaster next year for the fund-raising at a minimum potentially in the mid-terms. >> they need each other and they are both trying to neuter each other in different ways with different styles. that's what makes all of this so difficult. it's like i want to you hold hands with me, but i might shove you when you turn the other direction. i think we are going to be hearing a lot more from the president in the next several hours. we have several opportunities to
hear how this went and what signals he is trying to send. this gets very difficult and the calculation for the president continues to be balancing the steve bannon voice on one shoulder. the voice on the other shoulder said you need to help the republicans to keep the majority because that helps you. >> you wrote about this this morning saying we will hear from the president. among the questions he took, about steve bannon who is back at breitbart who said this is the season of war against the republican establishment including mitch connell. the president the "wall street journal" said spoke to steve bannon three times in recent days and said go for it. you have reported, a lot of them say mr. president, remember you are the cheerleader and the chief of the republican party. if you have this dissonance and you lose the house, you may be impeached. >> he doesn't see the downside of fighting with members of his
own party. he feels they haven't moved fast enough and people in the white house are saying not to mention lawmakers are saying look, there is a downside for you if republicans lose control of the house. democrats will make your life miserab miserable. they will move for impeachment and drag your friends and family and acquaintances up to the hill for testimony and there is not going to be a lot you can do about it. whatever you want to accomplish in the second two years, that goes down the drain if democrats are in charge of the house. they turn it into a spectacle. >> talk about a chilly meeting. this comes as steve bannon is endorsing about a half dozen primary challenges. connell needs to hold on. he has a slim margin. if it gets killed, two republican votes kills the bill. they block tax reform. they don't get to debate it. how do you explain that when you fail to repeal the aca. if you don't do taxes, you are in charge of everything.
>> my understanding is susan collins is likely a yes. she told the leader she will be a yes. a lot of undecideds. and cochran not there. the math gets interesting. in this meeting with mitch mcconnell, i'm not going to get to the point. we will wait to hear from the president of the united states and a little bit of tension talking about a number of issues. let's listen to the president of the united states. thank you very much and today we are here to discuss at the cabinet meeting critical domestic policy issues. i would like to basically provide you with an update as to how we are doing for the american people.
we are doing a lot of great things. the unemployment rate is at almost 17-year low. the stock market is soaring to record levels. we hit a new high on friday and another new high today. because there is tremendous optimism having to do with business in our country. gdp growth reached more than 3% last quarter and other than the hurricanes would have done phenomenally and we will still do very well, but something will have to be taken off because of the tremendous problems of the massive hurricanes that we had to endure. now i guess you can probably add the wildfires in california. the economy cannot take off like it really has the potential to do unless we reduce the tax burden on the families, businesses, workers of our country. we will be able to do that and i think we are getting tremendous receptivity from the people and i hope we get the same from congress. we are getting tremendous
accolades for what we are doing having to do with both reform and the massive tax cuts. it will be the largest tax cuts in the history of our country. we are one of the highest taxed nations in the world costing us millions of jobs and trillions of dollars. it's time to restore the competitive edge and tax cuts to the american people. at one point in gdp would be $2.5 trillion. think of that. revenu revenues. we go up from three to four. when i began, we were in the ones. now the last quarter is 3.2%. we are going up higher. if we went as an example from two to three or three to four. talking about $2.5 trillion and many millions of jobs. so we want to also reduce excessive government spending and that's what we are issare w
on in our meeting today. i asked the director to come up and find various savings in all of the departments that are gathered around the table which is everybody. i need my cabinet to work withve cuts and make sure they happen. we want to make the departments as lean and efficient as possible and at the same time we will be departments with lots of heart. lots of heart. one thing we are going to be working at strongly is welfare reform. that's becoming a very, very big subject. people are taking advantage of the system and other people are not receiving what they really need to live. we think it's unfair to them, but some people are really taking advantage of our system from that standpoint. we are going to be looking very, very strongly therefore at welfare reform. it will be a big topic under this administration. it started already and we have a lot of recommendations that we
are going to be making and you will be hearing about them very shortly. the other thing we are doing that relates to people's lives is the prescription drug prices are out of control. the drug prices have gone through the roof and if you look at the same exact drug by the same exact company made in the same exact box and sold someplace else, sometimes it's a fraction of what we pay in this country. meaning as usual the world is taking advantage of the u.s. they are setting prices with other countries and we are not. the drug companies are getting away with murder. we want to bring our prices down to what other countries are paying and let the other countries pay more. they are setting such low prices that we are subsidizes other countries. that's not going to happen anymore. this has been going on for years where our people are paying so much more. i don't mean they are paying 2%
more. double or triple or quadruple. it's very unfair to the united states as usual. last week i sent a letter to congress outlining my administration's top priorities for immigration reform. this was a bottom up effort driven by dedicated law enforcement professionals and they took a big oath to protect our nations and justice department is doing a fantastic job on the border and with regard to immigration more than anyone has ever seen before from a justice department. thank you very much, jeff. it really had an impact and a positive impact and now we will take it to five steps further. our proposal closes dangerous loopholes and vulnerabilities with asylum fraud and visa overstays. you are talking about numbers that nobody even knows what they
are, they are so out of control. we are going to take care of that. when you look at what's going on in mexico, mexico is having a tough time in terms of crime. more than ever we need the wall. we have drugs pouring through on the southern border. they are literally pouring through and we have to have the wall. we are going to have the wall. if you look at just what's happening on the other side of the border with the tremendous crime and the tremendous problems going on, we have a very good relationship with mexico. there are a lot of problems and we don't want the drugs. we don't want the crime. we need the wall. we asked congress to ensure that any proposed immigration reform ends migration. one person comes in and brings his family in with him or her. we have to end chain migration which is critical for creating a system that puts american workers and the american
taxpayer first. last thursday i proudly nominated kirstin nealson to serve in the department of homeland security. they asked they confirm this nominee and asked my other nominees. we have half the number of nominees confirmed by the senate. frankly the democrats have terrible policy. terrible. they are very good at obstruction. one thing they do well. the policy is no good and i'm not sure they are very good politicians because they don't seem to be doing too well. that could be because of bad policy. they are great at obstruction. we have half the nominees that president obama had at this time. very unfair. they are taking everyone out to the final moment and confirming them with tremendous majorities. but they are bringing them out purposely down to the final. we have people that are totally
qualified and going to pass, but they have to wait a long time because of obstruction. i can say the same thing with the judicial nominees. the judges. we have some of the most qualified people and the "wall street journal" wrote a story about it. some of the most qualified people ever and they are waiting forever online. it shouldn't happen that way. it's not right and it's not fair. i want to thank acting secretary elaine duke for leadership and responding to the catastrophic storms that struck our nation and territories. we also issued a disaster declaration in california response to the devastating wildfires like we have never seen. we mourn the terrible loss of life. we have fema and first responders there. our military is helping. it's very sad to watch how fast and rapidly they move and how people are caught in their
houses. it's an incredible thing. caught in their houses. we have a lot of people helping government in california. made a lot of progress in the past couple of days. we are a little subject to wins and what happens with nature. it's a very sad thing to watch. we also continue to pray for the victims of the mass shooting in las vegas. we cannot erase the pain of those who lost their loved ones, but we pledge to never leave their side and working with them with the fbi and law enforcement and the differently justice. i guess a lot of people think they understand what happened, but he was a demented sick individual and the wires were crossed in his brain. extremely badly in his brain. it's a very sad event. in each of these tragedies we
witnessed a tremendous strength and heroism of our people. each one of these tragedies we had, we witnessed such strength and heroism. when americans are unified, no instructive force on earth can come close to breaking us a party. we have a lot of work to do on behalf of our country and extraordinary citizens. a great trust has been placed upon each member of our cabinet. we have a cabinet that there are those that say it's one of the finest group of people ever assembled as a cabinet. i happen to agree with that. i should agree that. we have an extraordinary group of people around this table. this is a tremendous amount of talent and i wouldn't say i was necessarily looking to be politically correct although i ended up being politically correct because it was the right thing to do in every sense of
the word, however we have just gotten really, really great people. i am very proud of them. we will work on all of those things and many more. we have the iran deal being studied and a lot of people agreed with what i did. i feel strongly about what i did. i'm tired of being taken advantage of as a nation. this nation has been taken advantage of for many, many years and many decades and i'm tired of watching it. the iran deal was something that i felt had to be done. phase two might be positive. it could be positive and i thought the tone of the iranian leaders was modified and i was happy to see that, but i don't know if that means anything.
they negotiate a phenomenal deal for themselves and horrible for the united states. we will see what happens. health care is moving along. that was a subsidy to the insurance companies and a gift that was what they gave the experience companies. take a look at where their stock was when obamacare was originally approved and what it is today. you will see numbers that if you invested in the stocks, you would be extremely happy. they have given them a total gift. they have given them -- you can almost go at a pay off. it's a disgrace. that money goes to the insurance companies. we want to take care of poof people and people that need help with health care. i'm never going to get campaign
contributions from the insurance companies, but take a look at how much money has been spent by the democrats and by the health companies on politicians generally, but take a look at the covers of the democrats. the csr payments have actually brought republicans and democrats together. we got calls. emergency calls from the democrats and i think probably the republicans were also calling them saying let's come up with at least a short-term fix of health care in this country. and the gravy train ended when i knocked out their money. hundred of millions of dollars handed to the shrnlg companies for very little reason. believe me. i want the money to go with the people and poor people that need it.
not to insurance companies which is where it's going as of last week. i ended that. we have a lot of interesting things to do. i'm meeting with mitch mcconnell for lunch and we will say a few words after that. i know you won't have any questions. pretty much that's it. enjoy yourself, folks. i will see you out there with mitch mcconnell. >> steve is very committed. he's a friend of mine and very committed to getting things passed. despite what the press writes, i have great relationships with many senators, but in particular with most republican senators. we are not getting the job done. i'm not going to blame maze. they are not getting the job done. we had health care approve and a surprise vote by john mccain. we had other things happen and
they are not getting the job done. i can understand where steve is coming from and where a lot of people are coming from. i'm not happy about it and a lot of people are not happy about it. we need tax cuts. we need health care. we will get the health care done. in my opinion what's happening is republicans are meeting with democrats because of what i did with the csr. i cutoff the gravy train. if i didn't cut that, they wouldn't be meeting. they would be having lunch and enjoying themselves. they are having emergency meetings to get a short-term fix of health care. where premiums don't have to double and triple. obamacare is finished. it's dead. it's gone. you shouldn't even mention it. it's gone. there is no such thing as obamacare anymore. i said this years ago. it's a concept that couldn't have worked. in its best days it wouldn't have worked. we are working on a short-term
fix prior to the republicans getting together maybe with democrats. it's obstruction, but maybe with democrats to fix health care permanent permanently. we will have a short-term fix with republicans and democrats getting together and after that have a successful vote. as you know, we were one vote short and i think we have the votes rightgranting the money bo the states. it's a smaller form of government that can be more individually sensitive. that will happen fairly shortly. as soon as we have the next reconciliation we will get the vote for health care. i think we have the vote for health care. sadly the democrats can't join us on that which will be the long-term fix, but we will have a short-term fix because i think the democrats will be blamed for the mess.
this is an obamacare mess. when the premiums go up, that has nothing to do with anything other than poor care delivered poorly, written poorly, approved by the democrats. it was called obamacare, but we will have a short-term fix and a long-term fix and that will take place probably in march or april. we will have a very solid vote. it will be probably 100% republican. no democrats. most people know that will be a very good form of health insurance. that will be it. any other questions? no? thank you. see you in a little while. i know how he feels. depends on who you are talking about. there are republicans frankly that should be ashamed of themselves, but most of them, i will tell you what. i know the republican senators and most of them are really, really great people that want to work hard and want to do a great thing for the american public. a few people disappointed us.
really, really disappointed us. i can understand how steve bannon feels. thank you very much. >> about 20 minutes listening to the president of the united states in the cabinet room talking about every issue under the sun. the fact check on the failing side. the president's whose immigration has stopped. at one point saying they are pouring through. he said he wants budget cuts and he is about to move into a lunch with mitch mcconnell. steve bannon and his strategist said there should be a war on the establishment starting with the senate majori itity leader, mitch mcconnell. he understands what his top strategist is doing when he is challenging them. they are trying to bring in recruiters here.
>> he is alluding to the three senator who is did not support repeal. lisa murcowski, susan collins and john mccain. none are up for reelection next year. the people that bannon is targeting are facing reelection. none of them let the president down. one has been critical of the president, but whether it's tax cuts or most of the agenda, he has been supportive. he likes them we assume who are senators up next year and are not very well-known. they were not responsible for the collapse of health care reform. the question for the president is, are you going to support ousting incumbents who are supportive of your agenda. that's what he is doing. it's not just the three who bail on health care. they are not up next year. >> bannon is trying to recreate
the version of the republican par party. fine. we might be able to get more populous elect and they're going to continue to spar with democrats. how does that further your agenda? if you need to get stuff done, you want to get reelected, how does that help you in the long run? >> you had red state democrats that you might be able to pick up. why spend time, money, energy, fear, and have your own party in a turmoil of picking up those seats. if you look at the history of people who tried this including steve bannon, you end up nominating the christine o'donnells who lose seats who could have been republicans. >> it's a very tough map for them. they are up for reelection.
best case scenario, you replace them with other republicans. these who have been voting with president trump on every major item. you can't target lisa murcowski or john mccain because they were just reelected. >> voting with the president on the senate budget resolution. >> the president seems to have made the calculation that if he threatens or goes along with the threats to the incumbents, he will bend the leadership more in his direction and get mitch mcconnell to capitulate to what he wants to do whether substantively or his style. i look where he talked about a lot of things and he said this was an opportunity for the president if he wanted to say look, i appreciate what he is trying to do and it's important to unify.
it's like totally not what he did. if you are mitch mcconnell, the take away is we are totally where we started. >> the president made the chasm wider. i appreciate what he wants and share his goals, but i take issue with how he is doing it. this is the moment here. the president is running for seven years and they fail and they passed a bill after going through a process and the senate failed twice. most happened on capitol hill. if you talk to the speaker of the house and at key moment when is they needed his pp, listen to the president. he said this is your fault, congress, not mine. >> i'm not going to blame myself. they are not getting the job done. we had health care approved and you had a surprise vote by john
mccain. we had other things happen and they are not getting the job done. i can understand where steve bannon is coming from. where a lot of people are coming from. i'm not happy about it and a lot of people are not happy about it. >> he knows a lot of republicans especially trump voting republicans who may not have been historical republicans, trump voting republicans get more mad when you mention mitch mcconnell or paul ryan. he knows that. he knows that and he is tapping into that. his base at the party dislikes its own leadership. he is the president. to your point, if he is going to get tax reform on the high wire like health care, get the budget through first. he needs to bring them and not have some people saying screw it. i'm going to vote no. as they put it so neatly, he is
new to the business. he doesn't understand that his faith in this era of toll picks is so tied to what congress does. >> i'm not sure he thinks it's political. >> on some level he thinks if we heard him there, it's not my fault, these are thes who can't get it done. he feels he will be prospected. you can't blame the democrats. he feels like he has to find somebody who is not him to pin this on. one of the fears about him, the agendaa on capitol hill is they don't know where he is going to be tomorrow based on where he is today. he had a celebration and called it mean. then he said it needs more heart. this is the health care bill. there is always that nagging fear. >> he feels like he is protected
and can blame everyone else. he will still be protected. he doesn't understand that it's not going to be the dynamic. >> it's hard with the republicanses you have. it will be harter with fewer machines whether that means you take back a chamber. steve bannon is a friend of mine does and i appreciate what he is doing. he encouraged it. taking aim at the man the president of the united states is breaking bread with, mitch mcconnell. >> i have been getting calls. it's like the eyes of march. the only question and this is just the analogy or metaphor. they are looking to find out who is going to be brute us to your julius caesar. the donors are not happy.
we cut your oxygen off, mitch. >> we will be testing the power of steve bannon. do they knock off incouple bents? they say i share your goal and don't target this guy or that guy. the president didn't do that. mike pence is also in the launch. there is a profile of steve bannon that profiles about the pence presidency. he is equally alarmed at the prospect of a pence presidency. he would be a president that the koches would. you have he said the same thing as steve bannon. this is snag is not supporting the agenda 100% of the time.
we need to purge them. then you are the enemy. and we saw it with bob corker. for these individual senators or the vice president, they have both their own political interests and policy at heart with the president. they have this goal to get through the run much the senators have chone repeatedly a willingness to great their teeth and get through it. the cost of not doing that is worse. >> pence is not what i call a trump republican in his career. now of course he is going out of his way to show how loyal he is to the president and feels he needs the shot. >> there are a number of times where the president said critical things about his vice president and i thought you were going to get me the votes on
capitol hill. >> like immigration and trade. highlighted in his campaign. mike pence has not been that person. he has been a conservative. >> that line about a pence presidency. it's not just establishment versus the tea party. it's much more complicated now. you have various elements of the right and the center right now and they are all kind of in motion. it's a fluid time in conservative politics. the evil koch brothers. it's not quite that simple. bannon is not on the same side as what has been the boogie man for the last five years. >> he has his. it's not just about big money. this is not two or three pieces. this was the last drop from a big distance. when we come back, seated next to the president there is a defense secretary.
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welcome back. moments ago at the white house, these pictures where you see the secretary of state at the left of your screen, side by side with the boss in public view. all is fine, but the backdrop of that meeting we know filled with unpleasantness and tension including whether the secretary of state lashed out and insulted the boss. >> is it true. did you call him a moron. >> as i indicated earlier i was asked about that and i'm not going to deal with that petty stuff. this is a town that seems to relish gossip, rumor, innuendo and feed on it in a destructive way. i don't work and deal that way. i'm not going to dignify the question. i'm not playing. these are the games of
washington. these are the destructive games of this town. they are not helpful to anyone. so my position on it is i'm not playing. i'm not playing. if you want to make a game out of it, i'm not playing. >> it's not a game. it's important for those of us in washington to understand are the secretary of state and the president on the same page. do they like each other. you will notice no denial. he insists the relationship is solid and effective, but frequent tweets do raise doubts about whether he truly speaks for the president. that is problematic in that job with allies and enemies have to interpret comments like these. >> he made it clear to continue my diplomatic efforts that will continue until the first bomb drops. >> oh. >> exactly.
oh. on one hand he went out to do the sunday show and try to make the case that all is fine. i'm not going to answer the details. that's important. some might take it as humor. the diplomacy continues, but when you have military exercises today as we speak in south korea where among the things they are practicing is evacuating americans from seoul just to game out the possibility of this, it's not so funny. >> he is the exact same phrase. this is not an off the cuff thing. people will be trying to interpret it and wonder what he is saying. in this regard i would say he is a little bit in line with the president. he has been tweeting a lot of things and putting a lot of threats out there. this seems like his secretary of state. >> the president does like that. but the military is ready. the clock is ticking. >> he said he feels like diplomacy will be a wasted
effort. if it hasn't worked, nobody has been able to come out and say what they think might be different. what this administration might be doing differently from past administrations to give any indication it would work this time around. the best person to make that is not rex tillerson who has been cutoff by the president. >> part of the segue. a lot of people won't find diplomacy continues. a lot of people don't find that funny. this part is funny. bob corker and the president has been having a sparring match and said one of the reasons he disagrees, he said he believes the president cast rated his c secretary of state by issuing tweets and other statements undermining the secretary's work around the world. >> you have a cattle rarch and you don't want to say anything about the senator suggesting you have been before the world and
it's not anything that bothers you? >> i not. >> cut him off at the knee as to what i was talking about. >> you get the feeling that with secretary tillerson, this is a matter of running out the clock. we saw this with jeff sessions in the ag side, it's like there was a period of time that looked like he was tenuous. that sort of stuff. with mattis, perhaps because of the capabilities, hoe has his defense secretary and because of the president's trust for generals. he has been able to navigate his decision making a different way. for secretary tillerson, it seems like we are in a management situation and not improvement. >> you go on national tv and i assume because of his personal
honor, he doesn't want to lie. to take questions about what he called the president a moron and not deny them. last week when i talked to him, there is no good cop bad cop. trump has to play the backdoor diplomacy and when trump goes on twitter and said those things, it's not preplanned. there is no game that they are playing together. this is to under cut for the last time. >> giving voice is many senators are worried when there is a crisis moment, will the tillerson, mattis, and john kerry view prevail or will president trump and his tweeting habits prevail. >> look, it was a telling moment
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welcome back. we always love a chance to bring our friend back here. the president was in south carolina to raise money for the republican governor henry mcmaster. will we see the president here in the state of virginia? hillary clinton won virginia with 50% of the vote. it's close for the governor's race. look at all that red. donald trump still lost the state because conservatives down here, but a lot of people live
up here in the washington suburbs. the vice president has been here. the republican candidate for governor is trailing. mike pence in the southwest corner of the state trying to turn out rural trump voters. rural republicans. joe biden is here with the democratic candidate. this is in rest on, virginia. why are they here? take a look in the washington suburbs. deep blue and a lot of young voter who is don't like donald trump. in the end of this campaign, who is going to win? listen to this ad. he ran at times calling the president a narcissist, but he is trying to split the difference here. >> as a doctor, nobody ever asked if i'm a democrat or republican. they just want my help. if donald trump is helping virginia, i will work with him. but donald trump proposed cutting virginia's school funding and rolling back clean air and water protections and
dake ta taking away health care. i stood up to him and ed gilespie refuses to stand up to him at all. >> the president is clearly an issue. the lieutenant governor seems to be trying to split the difference because of moderate republicans. he doesn't want to trash the president. >> that's right. my story today. that ad comes directly from one lady in a focus group in northern virginia who said i don't like trump that much, but i wish you would work together. the nowhere votes realize they can't be too hot with the rhetoric because of swing voters. in the outer places, they vote for democrats. that's what the ad is aimed at. they are grappling with do you bring trump in to get your voters out. trump voters out.
part of the problem is that trump believes the friday before the election day. any hope of doing a sunday or monday election rally and perhaps not hurt you with undecideds, he is not going to be here. if you bring trump in, it has to be five days before the election. if that happens, who knows what trump says at the rally. >> if you bring him in, it's a delicate balance. a lot of people in the suburbs don't like the president. this is the public policy. the president's disapproval is 58% in the state of virginia. a long time republican in the state having lost what a great job he did with luther strange. having watch what a great job he did for luther strange, i'm not sure i want that. trump rallies are about trump. that's the danger. >> it's a difficult balance in virginia.
that's one of the swing states that hillary clinton won because of the suburbs. population is growing and they are much more liberal than not. we have seen gilespie get a little defensive and annoyed at the fact that he wants to make it about trump. we don't know who this man is attitude. you are running against me. >> people often look at virginia governor's races because it's the first one out. to give us clues about how voters are responding, but whey think we will be looking at is how the candidates respond to the new challenges that trumpism poses. these tactics where you are trying to appease the middle while energizing your base is complicated and gymnasticsal. how it works out may get clues for the primaries. >> it's an interesting point you make. not only are people trying to sort this out, but the candidates are trying to figure
out the quick sand. they used to work on capitol hill. they had a big job in the george w. bush white house. he's an establishment republican. this is the vice president campaigning for gilespie. >> the president and i are allies and partners with states like virginia. ed gilespie is as good as they come. despite for the life blood of virginia, except for donald trump, ed digs coal. >> he said i work with him and i worked on capitol hill and is a chief aide. wean each other from our days in the house. >> he mentioned south virginia. they are talking about what to
do here. pence gets the deal done. >> this is pretrump. >> yes. thanks for joining us. see you back here tomorrow. the white house holding a briefing and we will bring you that live with wolf blitzer in the chair. have a great day. ♪ the number 1 rated ego power plus blower. blasting 530 cubic feet of air per minute. powered by the industry's most advanced lithium ion battery technology. and now, introducing the new ego backpack blower. delivering the power of gas... without the noise, fuss or fumes for up to 2 hours on a single charge. exclusively at the home depot and ego authorized dealers.
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